Indeed. Doesn't sit well with me either. Especially when the "news" is as controlled as it is these days and pushed by tabloids. It's all hearsay at this point.

People can do whatever they want. But it's nice to show some class, whatever that means these days. We could at least try.

I tend to agree, it's not just to protect the accused, but even more so the others the accused holds power over.

You can't have someone that thinks it's okay to be sexually harassing people as an "aggressive" management technique (wherever the AP got that tidbit from who knows) continuing to hold power over people, "business as usual" as he puts it, especially in this industry where people are there because they love it, will do anything to be there and stay there.

All allegations should be treated seriously, and allowing an alleged perpetrator of harassment to continue their day-to-day holding power over hundreds of people isn't really doing so.

Sure it's not really fair, and leaders of other less public businesses wouldn't necessarily have to deal with this media-circus… But this is all part of F1.

If there was no substance to the allegations, the investigation would have concluded by now.

There's a list of articles on the front page, nobody is forcing anyone to engage with the topics they aren't interested in.

Everyone in this comment thread virtue-signalling about how we should just be waiting, not commenting, or even paying any attention to the story are still here, commenting, adding to the engagement, and prompting further promotion of the material.

When you're running any kind of story you're going to look at the trends and what people are interested in, it's as simple as that.

Implying this site has somehow lost its journalistic integrity and becoming "tabloid-like" is laughable, these are official statements from people close to the issue, not some random comment from far removed personality.

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I'm not going to ask…

@red-andy

It is effectively guilty until proven innocent. No worse, a punishment applied first, which can never be undone.

And no, it doesn't necessarily protect the complainant, because the greater the damages, the greater the potential for a lawsuit demanding that the complainant pays the damages.

They did so to effectively make the move first l, otherwise it would have been made public by a certain Dutch journalist.

In F1 yes

You're so wrong there.
Just look at the articles and comments posted 10 years ago.

There was no need to publish an article after every minor (non-)event; most days just the round-up from proper (well identified) sources and a single other article/feature.

e.g. take the interview with Villeneuve: that article is full of proper quotes form JV.
Whereas, this article has just two empty quotes from Marko, and a lot of (sometimes suggestive) stuffing.

We are not entitled to anything. Except free speech (yes, 1st amendment flavor of it from my POV). They don't have to say anything. We don't have to shut up.

Time for Guenther Steiner

Ah, does anyone else have the vision of Guenther requesting that Marko leave the garage as swiftly as possible? :)

If Hollywood law shows have taught me anything, it’s don’t mess with a high-powered lawyer’s investigator… It’s fun to think about what lengths they could be going to though. Worth every penny I reckon.

I know one KC who would insist on some bottom fermented tonsil lubrication of the real sort.
Day rates on the spendables drop a little with the right incentive.

Suspension while an allegation is investigated does not imply guilt; it is supposed to protect both the accused and the complainant until the formal process runs its course. When the accused is as high-profile and influential as Horner it feels like a dereliction of duty that he is still in post while the investigation is underway.

Facts&Stats, not really - this site has been around long enough for us to see that people really didn't behave any differently in the past. Just look at how many posters here used to comment about Bernie stirring the pot with lurid headlines in the off season, or speculated wildly during various scandals and the ups and downs in fortune that some figures had - and that's before we look at how much of a ready market the print sector had for sleaze and gossip in that era too.

Let's be blunt - the press has known for centuries that people often will debase themselves far more readily than many will admit to, and that gossip, speculation and sleaze are things that have drawn people in. Bernie relied on it, figures like Jordan or Briatore would wield that influence, whilst others like Stoddart might pick times to weaponise it for their own ends - the past was nowhere near as idealised as some paint it as being, it's just that most have forgotten what it used to be like back then.

"Lots of ad revenue" is what I think is going on.
Nobody knows - except Red Bull top management and a few select more.

But this has still been all over the media just about everywhere.
The story obviously generates interest, comments and an enormous amount of clicks.
It might generate a bunch of television subscribers too, for the new season (and even more ad revenue, yay for the bottom line).

The old saying "all publicity is good publicity".

The longer Horner stays the worse Red Bulls image. If he moves aside, he can commit himself fully to the investigation and depending on its outcome be reinstated or sacked. Right now people will basically see a person (rightly or wrongly) accused of harassment on live TV and in the court of public opinion such people are guilty until proven innocent which also then snowballs to RB.

Well, they certainly made it official news rather than rumour I hadn't heard about until it was reported that Red Bull had announced their investigation. That in itself does nothing to quash the rumours that this is actually infighting for control, though it may be no such thing.

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