I just think it's a bit funny how it's a Dutch journalist and apparently only this one who's seen this evidence. So from there we have to ask about the Dutch connection don't we? And then the motive comes into it and why would Jos, for example, want to destabilise the team like this?

You're overthrowing this. Sit this one out. Although I doubt you can help yourself on these topics.

This one certainly doesn't add up and I agree. RB should have standard policies to get rid of employees if there's evidence of the form claimed. This was one of the many things that didn't add up about the report.

Also I'm not Anon.

I'm just basing it on Van Haren's credibility.

He hasn't gotten a single report wrong the last two years. It is possible he is talking nonsense as well, in which case he will lose his job. He claims he saw the evidence himself.

I wouldn't pay any attention to that. Famous people tend to pay off these things simply because you see, in public domain it is assumed guilty and all that goes on is public trial. For me Erik claiming he saw the texts himself is the telling part. These numbers mean nothing as a no investigation with an NDA even if you're not guilty is always the better way out.

Yes it was very odd. Felt deliberately defensive, placing Horner himself at the heart of all their success (and arguably yes he is but even without the allegations it would have felt a bit over the top and arrogant, with them it feels so much worse). Although you can imagine it was put together way before the allegations came out as these things aren’t just made in a day… but yeah. Strange. Feels like all sorts of internal politics attached to this.

Lol you seem to be very much afraid to reply with your F1 Fan account :)

But it's just logic, that this Erik Van Haren supposedly has amazing evidence… from where? Why hasn't the drinks company just got on and acted on it? Take a brave pill and answer with your anon account, or your F1 Fan one

@zann you seem to be very much going into this with the mindset that you want to find a conspiracy theory, as it seems that would find it easier to cope with that than any other alternative explanation.

And/or how they violated the spending cap the following year?

Oh, and my favourite, we don't play by the rules…

Dutch connection, briefing, who's that? Someone trustworthy? Someone who really might have evidence to share? Someone with a track record of upholding women's rights??

And if there really was evidence, would they need this performance with the world famous enquiry? I don't think so. Christian would be long gone and the woman would have been gone as well - to somewhere warm and sunny with beach frontage and a lot more than £650k

That she is willing to turn down £650k says she must be confident or her role is very high.

Sounds like one engineer talked about her interactions with someone on the other side of the pit wall, and politics took action. And this putsch will do what ever it can to get rid of Ford and Christian. Will be interesting to see whats up. I would have to wager there is a lot of money on the line and some people are going to get paid if CH gets the boot.

If the whole thing ends up as pure smoke the demonstration that Ford thought they could not simply let the process go through is bad news for the relationship with RedBull.

Erik Van Haren is the highest tier of reliability when it comes to F1 news concerning RB. While many things don't add up, the fact that he claims he has himself seen the evidence is quite telling.

Hopefully the victim in this case gets a proper outcome.