Comments on: First sprint race of 2024 F1 season gets 4am UK start time | Formula 1 https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/ Formula 1, IndyCar, WEC, Formula E and more independent motorsport coverage Sun, 18 Feb 2024 14:35:39 +0000 hourly 1 By: S https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969979 Sun, 18 Feb 2024 14:35:39 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969979 In reply to Pete.

Teams actually spend many thousands of man-hours practicing their 'sport' - although these days it is mostly in the digital realm.
How do you think they come up with their car setups and strategies?

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By: Pete https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969941 Sun, 18 Feb 2024 11:37:41 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969941 In reply to MichaelN.

Sure but despite that, I can’t think of another sport where competitors spend less time practicing their sport than F1….

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By: johns https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969866 Sat, 17 Feb 2024 18:24:36 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969866 Law of unintended consequences: So then this means the sprint race can become a test session for the teams, if they want.

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By: John S https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969865 Sat, 17 Feb 2024 18:22:47 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969865 so is parc ferma not active between the sprint races and the real race qualifying? Meaning teams can make changes to the car?

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By: Grockle https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969774 Sat, 17 Feb 2024 09:42:54 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969774 In reply to AlanD.

I don’t feel the T20 comparison stands up. A T20 is actually similar to a sprint race in that it is a shorter format. If, as a casual viewer, you were to watch only a few overs of either a T20 or a test there is no considerable difference between the two.

I am indifferent to sprint races. Occasionally the alternative tyre strategy can add something.

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By: Michael A. https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969764 Sat, 17 Feb 2024 07:49:37 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969764 In reply to Leksa.

The sprint things are an abomination, through and through. The sad aspect is that people making so many $-millions can make such stupid decisions. F1 was not completely broken and it did not need 'fixing' in such a stupid manner.

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By: S https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969757 Sat, 17 Feb 2024 06:10:56 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969757 In reply to Leksa.

If money didn't speak, you wouldn't have F1 at all.

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By: Esploratore https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969750 Sat, 17 Feb 2024 03:35:15 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969750 In reply to Craig.

that's gone*

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By: Esploratore https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969749 Sat, 17 Feb 2024 03:34:56 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969749 In reply to Craig.

It's fair to compare it to practice, because you still have the race even in sprint weekends, it's practice that it's gone, it makes sense to make that comparison to me.

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By: Esploratore https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969748 Sat, 17 Feb 2024 03:33:42 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969748 In reply to RandomMallard.

Ahah, was thinking that with how many people don't like sprints and them being in the middle of night a lot of people wouldn't mind!

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By: ryanoceros https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969744 Sat, 17 Feb 2024 02:34:31 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969744 Good morning UK. Welcome to the American/Saudi future of F1.

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By: Jere https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969726 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 20:17:38 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969726 In reply to Bullfrog.

Morning timings are my favorite.

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By: AlanD https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969725 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 20:17:02 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969725 In reply to MichaelN.

No other sport spends over half the time at an event just practising.

I can't think of many other sports where the playing conditions are different every time. Football fields are more or less all the same size, swimming pools are standard lengths, archery always uses the same size targets at the same distances, etc. If you consider tennis, weather conditions change, so a tennis player will spend several days in Australia before the event practising and getting used to the temperatures, but they don't need to learn the actual court so they all do it in private, at times to suit each competitor. Downhill skiing is more akin to F1 in that every course layout is different and in those sports the competitors do have practice sessions, just like F1.

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By: AlanD https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969724 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 20:06:12 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969724 In reply to DB-C90.

I wouldn't call them abominations, but I don't like the mixed format. As it stands, the sprint race is just a truncated version of a GP, unlike other sports such as football where a normal match and five-a-side are completely different gaes, in cricket where a T20 and a test atch are vastly different. In F1, if you turned the TV on in the middle of a race, you'd have no idea if you were watching a sprint or a GP. If the sprint championship was for junior and reserve drivers only, I think a lot of people would get into it. When it is just a way of soaking up even more minutes on TV and a way of making some weekends worth more points than others, I think a lot of the longer-term race fans get a bit frustrated with it.

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By: MichaelN https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969711 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 18:22:44 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969711 In reply to Alan Dove.

Indeed, that's one of the reasons they won't stop filling the weekends with numerous practise sessions.

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By: Leksa https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969705 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 17:12:01 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969705 In reply to Archibald Bumfluff.

It's perfectly accurate to call them abomination. That's what they are: disgrace that never should have come to existence. If money didn't speak, we didn't need to suffer from sprints today.

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By: Alan Dove https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969704 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 16:32:46 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969704 In reply to MichaelN.

No other sport has a complete ban on practise between competitions either.

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By: SteveP https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969703 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 15:52:37 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969703

The Chinese Grand Prix will be the first sprint round. Its sprint race will start at 11am local time, which is 5am for most of Europe, 4am in the UK and 11pm on Friday night for viewers on the east coast of America.

Made early in China, why can't they have an afternoon race like everyone else (mostly)
The effect is to make it silly early in Europe and still rather late in the US.

It strikes me that it suits no-one at all.

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By: SteveP https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969702 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 15:50:11 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969702 In reply to Archibald Bumfluff.

Dude chill out, it’s just a short extra race.

It's a waste of an opportunity for a competitive showcase of the abilities of prospective young F1 drivers.

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By: MichaelN https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/16/first-sprint-race-of-2024-f1-season-gets-4am-uk-start-time/#comment-4969701 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 15:38:39 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526790#comment-4969701 In reply to Jonathan Parkin.

F1 has way too much practise. No other sport spends over half the time at an event just practising.

Unfortunately, sprint races just don't work. These are not sprint cars, nor do they have sprint tyres. So that's not a great solution, especially now that F1 has completely given up on the initial premise, which was to spice up the grid. This was obviously a bad idea, because the only thing that happens in a sprint is that the best teams can fix a bad qualifying result. It never works the other way around.

I understand why they don't do it, but they might as well skip Friday entirely, have practise and qualifying on Saturday and then, with no Parc ferme, warm-up and the race on Sunday. Giving teams a chance to tune their cars based on their grid position will do more to spice up the races than a sprint ever will.

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