Comments on: Horner: Investigation a 'distraction' but it's 'business as normal' for Red Bull | Formula 1 https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/15/horner-investigation-distraction-but-its-business-normal-red-bull/ Formula 1, IndyCar, WEC, Formula E and more independent motorsport coverage Fri, 16 Feb 2024 13:47:16 +0000 hourly 1 By: MadMax https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/15/horner-investigation-distraction-but-its-business-normal-red-bull/#comment-4969684 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 13:47:16 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526741#comment-4969684 In reply to RR.

so you know the details, or you judge based on your bias only?

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By: SteveP https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/15/horner-investigation-distraction-but-its-business-normal-red-bull/#comment-4969672 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 11:50:23 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526741#comment-4969672 In reply to F1 Fan.

My opinion is that the longer it takes the less there’s concreteness in the evidence and the case

My opinion is that the longer it takes, the more money the legal representatives will collect.
Oh, sorry, that one is a fact. Everything else is speculation.

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By: F1 Fan https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/15/horner-investigation-distraction-but-its-business-normal-red-bull/#comment-4969667 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 11:00:08 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526741#comment-4969667 He looked finished in the presentation though.

I don't see why Jos or Max have an issue with Horner. Similarly I don't see why Helmut whose contract is up next year will want to have a power struggle with Horner. My opinion is that the longer it takes the less there's concreteness in the evidence and the case and the more likelihood it's just someone misinterpreting what was said and complaining. Because any serious allegations at a big organization with well defined code of conduct and concrete evidence is a done case regardless of whoever is the person in charge. At the very least Horner would have been told to move aside in such a scenario. Red Bull just filmed an entire launch with him.

I can understand there being a power struggle since Mateschitz passing with Oliver wanting to take over Red Bull however.

F1 is basically drama and this off season didn't disappoint.

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By: Coventry Climax https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/15/horner-investigation-distraction-but-its-business-normal-red-bull/#comment-4969663 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 10:40:04 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526741#comment-4969663 And the picture above it all just adds visually to the speculation:
What will fall out of the cabinet they're standing around?
The photograph shows the space between Newey and Horner saying: '20 yrs of Red Bull culture in racing'.

Not very clever choices by Red Bull either, though.

Still, it's all just speculation so far.

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By: Zann https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/15/horner-investigation-distraction-but-its-business-normal-red-bull/#comment-4969662 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 10:35:48 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526741#comment-4969662 In reply to anon.

so she signed an NDA, when? That is the point isn't it. It's not as if there was a scandal that they had to respond to, it was secret from the start then they made it a public drama

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By: F1 Fan https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/15/horner-investigation-distraction-but-its-business-normal-red-bull/#comment-4969661 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 10:24:31 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526741#comment-4969661 In reply to anon.

Not to prejudice by leaking just enough details for speculation. Lol.

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By: SteveP https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/15/horner-investigation-distraction-but-its-business-normal-red-bull/#comment-4969642 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 08:36:25 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526741#comment-4969642 In reply to earthling.

Witch hunt, anyone?

"Witch hunt, fake news, maga, crooked someone…"

Sorry, wrong delusion.

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By: anon https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/15/horner-investigation-distraction-but-its-business-normal-red-bull/#comment-4969636 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 08:02:44 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526741#comment-4969636 In reply to Zann.

@zann it appears that the reason the person who raised the complaint did not say anything to the press is because there is a non-disclosure agreement in place - i.e. the parties involved have agreed to not disclose details to the press to not prejudice the investigation in one way or the other.

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By: pcxmac https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/15/horner-investigation-distraction-but-its-business-normal-red-bull/#comment-4969608 Thu, 15 Feb 2024 21:58:33 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526741#comment-4969608 In reply to Zann.

as easy targets as they are, it could be an Austrian/Porsche deal to. It sounds like Horner is on thin ice these days. Ford better pay off for him and RBR, but he will have to dance very carefully these next two years.

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By: RR https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/15/horner-investigation-distraction-but-its-business-normal-red-bull/#comment-4969607 Thu, 15 Feb 2024 21:58:12 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526741#comment-4969607 In reply to Zann.

Did you see the interview? I liked the way Horner snapped at the woman asking questions. "Did I say you could speak? Go to your room and don't come out till you're told."
Seriously though, he looked crest fallen like this whole affair has got to him. I hope he can survive these shenanigans.

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By: Zann https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/15/horner-investigation-distraction-but-its-business-normal-red-bull/#comment-4969602 Thu, 15 Feb 2024 21:28:17 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526741#comment-4969602 i'm beginning to think it'll just fizzle. They could have done it quietly, I mean the woman hasn't said a thing has she, not gone to the media or anything, but no it's a big drama that's distracted from Lewis and everything in the off season, so the drinks brand has been mentioned several million extra times. And the verdict is going to be by one person, that the drinks company is paying.

I could see Helmut retiring and less of Jos hanging around leeching the glory

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By: earthling https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/15/horner-investigation-distraction-but-its-business-normal-red-bull/#comment-4969598 Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:35:12 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=526741#comment-4969598 Witch hunt, anyone?

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