‘RB’ does not stand for ‘Racing Bulls’ name shown on FIA F1 entry list

49 comments on “‘RB’ does not stand for ‘Racing Bulls’ name shown on FIA F1 entry list”

1. 

   Phil Norman (@phil-f1-21)
   25th January 2024, 10:09

   There’s been a lot of fuss about the name. Personally I always liked Torro Rosso. I think they should have gone for Visa Cash App Torro Rosso. Then they would have just been called Torro Rosso by everyone again.

   Anyway, hopefully they get called Racing Bulls in everyday use which is better than the full title.
   1. 

      SjaakFoo (@sjaakfoo)
      25th January 2024, 11:01

      As the team is slowly moving house (for the time partly, but I expect in a few years completely) towards the UK, I assume this name was not an option for that reason. But that’s just guesswork on my end.
   2. 

      Esploratore (@esploratore1)
      26th January 2024, 4:18

      It’s toro rosso however, “torro” isn’t a word in italian.
2. 

   SadF1fan
   25th January 2024, 10:26

   Minardi it is then :’)
   1. 

      MurasamaRA300 (@murasamara300)
      26th January 2024, 8:57

      Minardi all the way!
   2. 

      Pedro Andrade
      26th January 2024, 17:17

      Yep, let’s just call them Minardi and quit all this nonsense.
3. 

   Matt P
   25th January 2024, 10:45

   My money is on everyone calling the newly named teams Racing Bulls and Sauber.
   1. 

      Roth Man (@rdotquestionmark)
      25th January 2024, 11:17

      Exactly what I was going to say. You take out the title sponsor and you’ve got Sauber and Racing Bulls. Which makes a lot more sense.

      Whole thing with RB has probably been deliberately misleading by them to make hysteria, outrage and a big fuss for clicks and attention.
      1. 

         Roth Man (@rdotquestionmark)
         25th January 2024, 11:19

         Also Racing Bulls is a great name btw
   2. 

      Jere (@jerejj)
      25th January 2024, 20:25

      I’ll probably call them Visa RB & Stake-Sauber.
4. 

   PacificPR (@streydt)
   25th January 2024, 10:51

   Racing Blues. By now. Let’s just see if the copy machine worked well at the Bull’s office and if the can keep up with the originals.
5. 

   MurasamaRA300 (@murasamara300)
   25th January 2024, 10:56

   … TEKA Minardi …

   See also comments in the “Official: AlphaTauri becomes…” thread.
6. 

   Retired (@jeff1s)
   25th January 2024, 11:11

   Sugar Free Red Bull was the best option marketing-wise.
   1. 

      rprp
      26th January 2024, 12:01

      Taking something that is generally not particularly well liked or respected (but is extremely successful) and making it worse?

      Spot on.
7. 

   amped
   25th January 2024, 12:06

   So exactly what the smart amongst the bunch have been saying all along.

   The team may not expressly be called “Racing Bulls” thanks to the sponsorship similar to those used by Sauber and Genii-owned Renault F1 in past years, but it is the team’s new identity.
8. 

   SadF1fan
   25th January 2024, 12:37

   So Minardi it will be then…
9. 

   Tommy Scragend
   25th January 2024, 13:40

   A lot of people on social media seem to be getting hung up on the “Visa Cash App” part of the name for some reason. It’s just a sponsor. You aren’t going to hear Crofty say “there goes Tsunoda in the Visa Cash App RB” any more than you would hear him refer to Alonso in the “Aston Martin Aramco” or Verstappen in the “Oracle Red Bull”. The days of commentators referring to the John Player Special rather than the Lotus and such like are long gone.

   The team formerly known as AlphaTauri will just be referred to in an everyday context as either RB or Racing Bulls.
   1. 

      Yaru (@yaru)
      25th January 2024, 13:46

      They’ll probably just be called Visa, like AlphaTauri and Alfa Romeo were called such despite being brand names that are sponsoring/being promoted.
      1. 

         Yellow Baron
         26th January 2024, 9:08

         Easiest to call them carbs. So just without the visa part
   2. 

      amped
      25th January 2024, 15:01

      A lot of people are being disingenuous and acting as if title sponsorship, having two title sponsors or even naming the team after a sponsor is something Racing Bulls has just existed. Sponsorship of sports is a thing and for the most part they are just ignored when referring to a team’s identity.

      As if we didn’t have Alfa Romeo used as a name for the Sauber F1 team for the thanks to their sponsorship.
      Or the whole nonsense about Lotus & Lotus, where Lotus cars sponsored the Renault F1 team because the boss at the time was jealous of Tony Fernandes owning a team called Lotus.
   3. 

      drmouse (@drmouse)
      25th January 2024, 18:34

      Alpha Tauri was just the sponsor, too, and that was the same portion of the name as Visa Cash App is now….
      1. 

         Chris Horton
         25th January 2024, 19:46

         Yeah, but they’ve gone and named it Visa Cash App.
      2. 

         amped
         27th January 2024, 19:44

         AlphaTauri was sort of a sponsor anyway, much in the same was Haas Automation is a sponsor to Haas F1 Team. They may technically be sponsors but in reality they are just brands owned by the parent organisation.
10. 

    Apophis (@apophisjj)
    25th January 2024, 14:31

    So how would they name their cars? Red Bull Racing already uses “RB(Number)” for their cars so I’m intrigued to see what they would come up with. Such a depressing situation, just like the whole state of F1 at the moment…
    1. 

       notagrumpyfan
       25th January 2024, 15:26

       Such a depressing situation

       What’s wrong with two different teams using a similar reference to their current car.

       The formal entry name of the car is well defined: chassis name plus engine name (if different), thus in this case RB-Honda RBPT (not sure about the hyphen).
    2. 

       Bullfrog (@bullfrog)
       25th January 2024, 16:25

       Maybe they’ll start with RB19…
11. 

    Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
    25th January 2024, 17:04

    This story originally stated we’d approached RB for comment, now that we’ve heard back from them it’s been updated accordingly.
    1. 

       Tristan
       25th January 2024, 21:16

       Does that explain why the comments up to here say we’ll call it racing bulls then?

       Thoroughly confusing given the current headline.
       1. 

          amped
          27th January 2024, 19:53

          If you are referring to my comment, then it was indeed made prior to the update.

          However with both a registered trademark and the company now named Racing Bulls SpA, they didn’t go to the effort and expense of this for nothing. I don’t really care what the team PR says, it is pretty evident what the of the team name is really even if they are towing the corporate line.

          When VISA & CashApp eventually decide they have exhausted the use of the sponsorship, the name with revert to Raxcing Bulls, just watch.
12. 

    Le Jimster (@lejimster82)
    25th January 2024, 17:54

    I feel like we are being trolled by “Racing Bulls”. I suspect they wanted to announce the name properly at the launch event and the media has beat them to it so they’re now denying RB stands for Racing Bulls, but if they’ve already registered the name with the FIA.. Then they’re either lying or they’ve changed the name yet again.
    1. 

       SteveP
       25th January 2024, 21:03

       Then they’re either lying or they’ve changed the name yet again.

       When has anyone in the RB camp ever uttered anything separated from the truth.
       Please exclude cost cap, accounts, catering budget references from any response regarding the items and Hans Christian from the name(s)
13. 

    Phil Norman (@phil-f1-21)
    25th January 2024, 18:00

    VCARB sound like some kind of slimming pill. Maybe they’re getting rid of the bulk?!
    1. 

       drmouse (@drmouse)
       25th January 2024, 18:43

       It makes me think Virtual Car B…
14. 

    Red Andy (@red-andy)
    25th January 2024, 18:03

    I guess that means we can decide for ourselves what it stands for. I’ll go with “Ragtime Bagpipes,” the inexplicably underutilised musical genre.
15. 

    senproman
    25th January 2024, 19:03

    At this point, it stands for “rubbish branding”…
16. 

    Bullfrog (@bullfrog)
    25th January 2024, 20:29

    Sounds like their football club in Germany: RB Leipzig. Of course, RB doesn’t stand for you-know-what – it’s Rasen-Ballsport (Rasen is lawn) because they’re a bunch of lawnballers.
    1. 

       Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
       25th January 2024, 20:50

       @bullfrog Pity they never thought to name this team RB Minardi back in 2006.
       1. 

          MurasamaRA300 (@murasamara300)
          26th January 2024, 9:16

          It can still happen 18 years later!
          Long live the Minardi team!

          After all, this is a separate team from Red Bull now, isn’t it…?
          A team in its own right. So it doesn’t need the “RB” bit.

          They could even call it “Visa Minardi“.
          Should make the sponsors happy.

          Watch everyone walking around with smiles as big as Daniel Ricciardo. :D
17. 

    US_Peter (@us_peter)
    25th January 2024, 21:21

    I have to assume then that it stands for Rank Buffoonery. If they haven’t stated clearly otherwise it must be true.
    This whole venture seems like it’ll be used as curriculum in marketing school programs to show how NOT to roll out your rebranding campaign.
    1. 

       EffWunFan (@cairnsfella)
       26th January 2024, 2:07

       …..to show how NOT to roll out your rebranding campaign

       Maybe you have something there. Perhaps a temporary placeholder made it into the name by mistake.

       Visa Cash App “Re-Brand”
18. 

    Ferdinand
    26th January 2024, 7:31

    I do not understand why this is a topic of interest.
    1. 

       amped
       27th January 2024, 19:55

       Because Red Bull bad…

       That is literally all there is to it. They aren’t doing anything that no other team has done before. Other teams work together in shared facilities, use each other’s wind tunnels, buy parts from each other.
19. 

    Dan G (@dang)
    26th January 2024, 8:34

    What’s amusing me is that I don’t think many people looking on realise that “Visa” and “Cash App” are two separate entities – it’s not a cash app from visa. Search “Visa Cash App” and you see articles ridiculing the name, with the cash app website well down the results!

    What a mess. I suspect they could become known simply as “the Faenza team”, just like “the Enstone team” did because of their rapid-fire name changes a few years ago.
    1. 

       Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
       26th January 2024, 9:15

       @dang

       I don’t think many people looking on realise that “Visa” and “Cash App” are two separate entities

       I didn’t to begin with – I assumed Visa had bought Cash App somewhere along the lines. It’s like when we had ‘Aramco Cognizant Aston Martin’, though at least in that case they were companies in different fields so less likely to become confused.
20. 

    Michael
    26th January 2024, 10:18

    The problem is the way it was announced and the way it was reported.

    They should have clearly announced the new Constructor name as RB.

    Then a week later or whenever announced a new title sponsor as Visa Cash App. I.e

    “The RB Formula 1 Team are proud to announce a new X year title sponsor partnership with Visa Cash App, the blah blah blah. Visa Cash App RB Formula 1 Team will be launching their new livery on X with divers Yuki Tsunoda and Daniel Ricciardo looking forward to the first race on X”
21. 

    Stephen H
    26th January 2024, 11:00

    It wouldn’t surprise me if in a few years time we had an F1 team named Om-Pom-Pim-Wim-Yam-Wom-Mimmity-Moo-Bonza-Dog-Doo-Dah-Band Honda.
22. 

    Le Jimster (@lejimster82)
    26th January 2024, 11:08

    I missed the part of the article that mentioned chassis branding will be RB until now. If they start going through the numbers like RB-01 etc it’s going to get confusing.
    Looking forward to the launch, just so we get some proper answers (I hope)
23. 

    Sham (@sham)
    26th January 2024, 11:21

    If you need to explain your marketing, you’re doing it wrong.
24. 

    Imre (@f1mre)
    26th January 2024, 21:17

    Red Button?

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