Fernando Alonso moved a step closer to the championship with an impressive win on the streets of Singapore.
He came under sustained pressure from Sebastian Vettel in the closing stages and crossed the line just three tenths of a second ahead of the Red Bull.But Lewis Hamilton’s title hopes suffered a severe blow after contact with Mark Webber put him out of the race.
The race got off to an orderly start with the leading drivers all keeping their positions: Alonso ahead of Vettel – just – and Hamilton. Jenson Button had beaten his team mate to the front corner but Hamilton out-braked him comfortably to take third place back.
Mark Webber held onto fifth at the start. Within two laps the safety car was out and Red Bull took a pivotal decision to pit the championship leader while his title rivals stayed onto the track.
This was a significant gamble but one that ultimately allowed him to get ahead of the two McLarens. It wouldn’t have worked if he hadn’t made such rapid progress through the traffic: he took Kamui Kobayashi and Michael Schumacher, each making mistakes at turn three.
The front runners spent a long time on the super-soft tyres, with Alonso gradually increasing his lead over Vettel to around three seconds.
The McLarens dropped back at a similar rate to begin with, then began losing time more quickly. They finally pitted on laps 28 and 29, Hamilton first, and both returned to the track behind Webber.
Alonso and Vettel came in together on the next lap and returned to the track in the same order, Vettel making a slow getaway. But once he returned to the track he was vastly quicker, slashing into Alonso’s slender lead.
But the return of the safety car temporarily suspended the fight at the front. Kamui Kobayashi had put his Sauber in the barrier at turn 18 and Bruno Senna had followed him in.
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Hamilton and Webber collide
At the restart Alonso ran wide at turn 20 but Vettel wasn’t able to get close enough to pass. Nor did he seem to have the same performance advantage once the race had resumed.
Webber was held up getting past the two Virgins and Hamilton seized is chance. He drew past on the outside on the way into Memorial corner and was clearly ahead.
But Webber’s front-right wheel tagged Hamilton’s left-rear. The contact was enough to put Hamilton out but Webber, despite clear damage to the front wheel, continued and finished.
Despite being urged on by his team, Button wasn’t able to get close enough to Webber to try a move of his own. Nor could Vettel do much about Alonso – until the final laps.
The mid-race safety car spared the leaders much in the way of traffic until the final lap. As Alonso picked his way through traffic Vettel closed and as they rounded the final corner Vettel was just three tenths of a second behind Alonso.
But he wasn’t close enough to pass – not that he could have, with the yellow flags being waved for Heikki Kovalainen’s smouldering Lotus.
Nico Rosberg had a typical quiet run to fifth place, which Rubens Barrichello was promoted to sixth when Robert Kubica made a late pit stop with a puncture.
Kubica battled his way back up to seventh with a string of passes on both Toro Rossos, team mate Vitaly Petrov, Felipe Massa, Nico Hulkenberg and finally Adrian Sutil.
Massa salvaged tenth place after starting last. He pitted on the end of the first lap but with so many other cars pitting after the first safety car period he couldn’t make much progress.
He finished behind Hulkenberg, who barged past Petrov earlier in the race, both going off the track at turn seven.
Jaime Alguersuari was 12th after being forced to surrender his 11th-placed starting position on the grid and start from the pit lane due to a water leak.
Michael Schumacher had a bruising run to 13th. He was hit by Kobayashi early in the race, then returned the favour to the Sauber driver’s team mate Nick Heidfeld.
Too hot for Kovalainen
Kovalainen’s drama began when he made contact with Sebastien Buemi, who finished 14th. It severed a fuel line, prompting a huge fire.
He elected not to pit his Lotus and parked on the start/finish line. The back of the car now completely ablaze, Kovalainen grabbed a fire extinguisher and set about dousing the flames while the other cars completed the final two laps. Despite all this, the safety car was not summoned a third time.
Kovalainen’s retirement left Lucas di Grassi as the highest-finishing of the new teams’ cars in 15th.
Team mate Timo Glock had an excellent run early in the race. He avoided pitting during the first safety car period and successfully kept Adrian Sutil behind for nine laps.
His race was compromised by the second safety car period, which came after Alonso had lapped him but before Kovalainen had been lapped. He later retired.
Alonso’s victory means he is now within 11 points of Webber with four races remaining. The 15 points Webber scored today thanks to the strength of his front wheel could prove very valuable.
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2010 Singapore Grand Prix
- Technical review: Singapore Grand Prix
- Webber: Ferrari have momentum (Video)
- Final tracks suit McLaren better – Button
- No change in my approach – Hamilton
- Williams expect to keep up with Renault
- 2010 Singapore Grand Prix – the complete F1 Fanatic race weekend review
- Who was the best driver of the Singapore Grand Prix weekend? (Poll)
- Fourth win of 2010 is Alonso’s best yet (Ferrari race review)
- Poor pace and another Hamilton DNF hits title hopes (McLaren race review)
- Webber has champion’s luck but lacks Vettel’s pace (Red Bull race review)
slr
26th September 2010, 16:41
Great race from Alonso. That’s his first ever grand slam in Formula One.
Sideshow Bob
26th September 2010, 17:50
The first Grand Chelem since Hungary ’04! I must say I would love to see Fernando win the championship. He’s really back to his old self again, after some mistakes and bad luck earlier.
Alonso has now passed Fangio and tied Jim Clark and Niki Lauda with 25 wins.
gpfan
26th September 2010, 19:05
Four greats! FA is the best out there.
Icthyes (@icthyes)
26th September 2010, 23:29
It wasn’t a Grand Chelem because Button briefly led the race. But it was a Perfect Race in more than one sense of the word.
Icthyes (@icthyes)
26th September 2010, 23:30
Or hang on, was Button ahead but it never officially registered as he didn’t complete a lap in the lead? If so, my mistake.
Red Andy (@red-andy)
27th September 2010, 0:40
No, the BBC commentators assumed Button would take the lead, but he pitted on the same lap as Alonso and Vettel so never actually got in front. Alonso led every lap of the race.
US_Peter (@us_peter)
26th September 2010, 21:35
…and according to SPEED, the first grand slam at all since Schumacher ’04 at Hungaroring.
Steph (@)
26th September 2010, 16:43
In retrospect I think Heikki was right as he said he didn’t want to go to the pits when the car could explode.
Excellent job by Fernando. Seb did well today too. I’m sorry for Ham fans as it was a shame esp after Monza.
Austin
26th September 2010, 16:59
Right Steph, thats why he stopped in front of red bulls pit wall ;)
BasCB
26th September 2010, 18:19
thats interesting reasoning, but it does look like it makes sense
Jack Holt
26th September 2010, 18:39
I thought that was what Heikki was up to, good decision.
codesurge
26th September 2010, 20:44
A little disappointing to see that Heikki had to resort to putting out the fire himself. Where were the marshals, especially since he was on the start/finish straight?!
Steph (@)
26th September 2010, 21:10
I really appreciate the marshals for volunteering and putting themselves in dangerous situations sometimes but all weekend they did seem slow to react like when Bruno stopped on track. I would have thought given that Heikki was on fire that they would have moved with a little more gusto.
US_Peter (@us_peter)
26th September 2010, 21:37
Yeah, that was a bad showing from the marshals, and made Heikki look good. Singapore may want to up the ante in training their marshals for next year’s race.
spankythewondermonkey (@spankythewondermonkey)
27th September 2010, 8:50
the start finish straight is pretty caged in. unless heikki stopped at a marshal post, they’d always need to run to the car. there will be very few, if any, marshal posts along the S/F straight. it’s kinda dominated by the pits ;-)
what heikki did, in returning to the car with an extinguisher, was incredibly brave, but i don’t think you can blame the marshals for not being where he stopped.
Kyle
26th September 2010, 16:43
I think Alonso was a little fortunate with the timing of the second safety car, it looked like Vettel had a significant pace advantage on the fresh primes and would have put him under severe attack.
But besides that, a flawless race from the front two, and a very entertaining affair. Red Bull are in a great position to seal their first constructors’ championship, that’s for certain. But Alonso is now a massive threat in the drivers’ contest. Webber for me remains marginal favourite but Alonso is not far back. McLaren in trouble going forward unless something changes fast.
Andy W
26th September 2010, 17:52
You could say that both Vettel and Alonso were lucky because of the 2nd safety car…. That way Vettel didn’t risk his Alonso’s race by trying to overtake when he had better rubber.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
26th September 2010, 18:05
I think the second safety car was a blessing for Alonso: Vettel was charging at him when it came out and it gave him a breather. It also means he caught far fewer lapped cars than he might have done. I don’t see how the second safety car helped Vettel.
gpfan
26th September 2010, 19:10
Keith? I think “other Andy” meant that if not for the SC, Vettel may have got just close enough to do something stupid….
:)
Eggry (@eggry)
26th September 2010, 16:48
Fantastic race from both Alonso and Vettel. It was very close! Vettel was just 0.2s off at the end.
Now I think Mclaren loosing their momentum, so it will be harder to fight againt Ferrari and Red Bull.
But title battle is still opened.
I betted Alonso or Webber, but today’s performance of Webber make me doubt about him.
Maybe Red Bull could kill each other, and Alonso could be suffered from engine problemm
so I’m not sure about championship anymore. it’s little frustrating, but also very exciting.
anyway, Is there anyone knows engine and gearbox allocation site?
Hotbottoms
26th September 2010, 16:51
“today’s performance of Webber make me doubt about him.”
Excuse me? It’s true Webber’s qualifying was terrible, but I think today he was clearly the best driver on the track.
David A
26th September 2010, 21:01
Can’t say he did better than Alonso today.
Eggry (@eggry)
26th September 2010, 16:57
yes, he made amazing overtake and overtake…but he did never catch up Alonso and Vettel’s lap time. he had to push strongly as ALO and VET, but he didn’t make really good lap time. If he was in front row, I doubt he could catch up both of them.
Hotbottoms
26th September 2010, 17:01
After first SC Webber had worse tyres compared to Vettel and Alonso at all times so I don’t think those lap times are comparable.
Eggry (@eggry)
26th September 2010, 17:11
You’re right Hotbottoms. ban of refuel and tyre rules make us much harder to analysis. but I still doubt he could match both of them.
Eggry (@eggry)
26th September 2010, 16:59
anyway, Steph informed the site. thanks, Steph.
http://www.f1wolf.com/2010-season
Steph (@)
26th September 2010, 21:08
No problem Eggry. Hope it helped :)
Tiffiamo Insieme
26th September 2010, 17:00
Mark Webber grabbed 15 points today, without his gamble with the early pitstop he would probably have been fourth after Jenson Button and scored 12 points. So the gamble paid off but not very much. Still these 3 pt can be decisive for the WDC
F1iLike
27th September 2010, 0:20
He’d rather have been fifth since Hamilton would have been still in the race.
BasCB
27th September 2010, 6:26
But in that case he would have been behind in 3rd Hamilton as well (no crash between the 2 o them), so the difference is more than 3 points
roberttty
26th September 2010, 17:01
Keith,
no mention of Kubica’s charge?
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
26th September 2010, 18:03
Paragraph 18.
AK
26th September 2010, 17:02
One thing we learned from the race is that the new tests and ‘rule clarifications’ have done diddley squat in terms of reducing the margin between the ‘flexi wing’ cars and those of the outfit from Woking on high downforce, non power circuits.
Ral (@)
26th September 2010, 17:09
Quite a boring race, but some amazing drives from Alonso, Vettel, Webber and Kubica. Nice setup for the rest of the season :)
Allie500
26th September 2010, 17:11
Mark Webber is the dirtiest driver in the history of F1. That is the second time his reckless driving has cost Hamilton. He doesn’t deserve the championship. If I was Hamilton, I would purposely take him out in a couple of the next races. Webber has purposely ruined Hamilton’s championship, the least Hamilton can do is return the favor.
I am shocked that he wasn’t given a drive through for it. He clearly was beat and he recklessly went in there and took Hamilton out. Another embarrassing episode for Formula 1.
Tiffiamo Insieme
26th September 2010, 17:14
Haha, perfect, an all-out war between WEB and HAM. ALO couldn’t ask for anything better.
Calum
26th September 2010, 17:14
Don’t worry, for Hamilton’s sake he seems dejected from the fact the same thing has happened twice in a row, but he will bounce back, and if he does get a bit of good luck then it will be looking rosy by Abu Dhabi.
Lewis Hamilton is NOT out of contention!
Sound_Of_Madness
26th September 2010, 17:25
Surprisingly, so does not Button. His consistentcy pays off :)
Feli
26th September 2010, 17:25
Let me completely disagree: another great episode for Formula 1. What a race!
Stewards not protecting Hamilton punishing a race incident with Webber doesn’t mean that this should be an embarrassing race as you define it.
F1 racing is not only about Hamilton wining and Webber is not the dirtiest at all, please let’s be fair with those who race against your beloved Hamilton.
But don’t worry, Ham is talented enough to strike back as the gap between these fab five is really small.
Any case, my pennies go for Alonso as champion at Abu Dhabi.
Allie500
26th September 2010, 17:43
It’s not about protecting one driver over the other. Its about protecting the integrity of the sport.
This is a recurring theme with Webber, he did the same thing to Vettel. He can’t stand being passed and when it happens he almost can’t help himself and he just gives the other driver a nudge. He’s just reckless, that’s a fact. His own driving history speaks for itself.
Webber would really fit in over here in NASCAR.
Hotbottoms
26th September 2010, 17:50
Vettel-Webber collision was Vettel’s fault. If you disagree, please note that 75% of F1Fanatic readers think Vettel was to blame and only 8% blame Webber (source: https://www.racefans.net/2010/05/30/webber-and-vettel-lose-one-two-finish-for-red-bull-after-collision/ ).
Mahir C
26th September 2010, 18:10
I also think this was a racing incident today, but you cant deny when someone tries to overtake him it usually ends up in a crash.
ExParot
26th September 2010, 18:57
I really think Webber, when he saw hamilton ahead, tried to take both of them out and got away with it.
Remember Hamilton had already past him, so this was not Webber holding the racing line, but coming from behind and late braking into an ever diminishing gap.
I think it was intentional and he was very very lucky and Hamilton was not :(
Stevo
27th September 2010, 1:00
Why would he let Fernando take 25 points out of him, and Seb 18, to stop Hamilton taking 3 more points (or 6 points on turnaround) off him? Ridiculous.
mfDB
27th September 2010, 15:28
Wrong, Hammy had technically passed him, but they were still side by side. Mark had every right to stay put. The same pass at the same corner was perfectly executed by Kubica at the end of the race. Hamilton should have left more room. In reality, Mark was very lucky not to damage his car more than he did and I think it was a very foolish move on Marks part and a small lapse of judgment on Hammys part (he even said he couldn’t see him anymore and ‘thought’ he wasn’t there).
But, the bottom line is that was 100% a racing incident and it would have been very sad if they had penalized any one involved.
rci 808
26th September 2010, 19:03
You have a kink on your eye allie500, you cant see straight.
That incident was CLEARLY hammerton’s fault.
Just look at the kubica/sutil overtake in the same exact turn, they made it through just fine because kubica stayed wide enough to avoid collision.
There was plenty of room for hammerton to do same.
Reckless driving is hammerton at monza too.
That kid can wreck a steel ball.
David A
26th September 2010, 21:06
Well, your sight is not any better if you couldn’t see that it was a racing incident. Hamilton went for the pass and as he was executing it, neither driver left the other enough room, and Hamilton got unlucky that he retired. Simple as.
mfDB
27th September 2010, 15:30
I agree, it was an incident. they both could have done things to avoid it and Webber just got lucky.
anakincarlos
27th September 2010, 0:16
I would like to know how many tyres hamilton has slashed with his front wing so far.
BliNnk
26th September 2010, 17:23
It will be extremely sad if kubica never gets a championship fighting car. If he was in a red bull this year, he would’ve won the WDC like 5 races ago!
I know about one race at small ages where kubica qualified ahead of hamilton, but hamilton passed him at the start or something. What happened to other races between these two in their youths? Really feel these two are the best on the grid.
Anyway great 2nd half of the race!
DC
26th September 2010, 18:10
Yes, that was extremely impressive. I might vote for Kubica as best driver of the race when Keith gets the poll up.
Damon
26th September 2010, 19:34
I think you’re talking about the F3 Macau GP.
MacademiaNut
26th September 2010, 17:26
Fantastic drive by Alonso today. I liked Alonso during his Renault (blue/yellow livery) days as he was considered an underdog and defeated Ferrari to clinch WDC twice. Now, you can see the same drive in him. Despite the fact that he drives for Ferrari, if he continues to drive like this, I am all for him to win the WDC.
Too bad for HAM though. He goes through inside, his wheel goes off. He goes outside, still gets hurt. Hopefully, he will bounce back in the next few races.
David BR
26th September 2010, 17:43
That was great driving from Alonso, all weekend. Any more of that and he’ll be justifying his personal takeover at Ferrari and re-earning his tag as best driver out there. Congratulations.
Icthyes (@icthyes)
26th September 2010, 17:52
I wouldn’t go so far as to say Alonso was the driver of the race or the weekend, but the race winner deserved it. After all, no-one could beat him!
ExParot
26th September 2010, 18:27
I think it was bad form from Webber to barge into Hamilton like that.
It is clear that he intended to take both of them out of the race because there is no way on earth he would have made through that corner with Hamilton ahead. An I think it is easy to see from the interviews that he could not believe his luck.
Webber should be ashamed and I’m surprised he wasn’t punished :(
Jack Holt
26th September 2010, 18:50
Webber couldn’t afford to DNF. My initial reaction was to blame Hamilton, but after seeing the replays Hamilton went as wide as possible to give Webber room, but as there wasn’t space for two cars, Webber should have conceded the corner. I think Webber was in the wrong, but I’m glad the stewards said it was a racing incident, the sport doesn’t want every contact to result in a penalty, IMO penalties should be reserved for stupid behaviour, not mistakes.
ExParot
26th September 2010, 19:08
” the sport doesn’t want every contact to result in a penalty”
I agree with you there, but I think ‘intention’ should be taken into account.
As for “Webber couldn’t afford to DNF”, well he could, if Hamilton was taken out too. At the end of the day what he was faced with to have points advantage markedly reduced or maintain the same place on a day when he wasn’t competitive. Its a win/win either way, only it worked far better than he anticipated.
The more I think about it the more I think Webber knew from before the race that taking Hamilton out is a possibility!
I really cant see how Webber
ExParot
26th September 2010, 19:14
;|
I really cant see how Webber could possibly have made that move stick?
Steph (@)
26th September 2010, 19:30
“I think it was bad form from Webber to barge into Hamilton like that.”
He hardly barged into Hamilton when he was as close to the inside kern as he could get. He just went too deep and Hamilton pulled across too much as he couldn’t see him.
They both didn’t give an inch. 50/50 possibly avoidable if either driver had backed off but then they wouldn’t be them. Just my opinion though! :)
rci 808
26th September 2010, 19:41
Let me say it to you too…
You have a kink on your eye ExParot, you cant see straight.
That incident was CLEARLY hammerton’s fault.
Just look at the kubica/sutil overtake in the same exact turn, they made it through just fine because kubica stayed wide enough to avoid collision.
There was plenty of room for hammerton to do same.
Reckless driving is hammerton at monza too.
That kid can wreck a steel ball.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
26th September 2010, 19:51
Racing incident, just like the stewards said. Both of them could have done a little more to avoid it.
ExParot
26th September 2010, 20:02
I think I’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one :)
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
26th September 2010, 20:18
No, because you’re wrong and I’m right. :p
F1iLike
26th September 2010, 21:06
I have to agree with Kieth on this. Even though I’m usually fast to blame, well, both of them xD
Ben
27th September 2010, 12:25
Not only you Keith, but the stewards AND Martin Brundle AND David Coulthard. And at least 2 of those know more about motor racing than ExParot.
mfDB
27th September 2010, 15:33
This was SOOO easy to see, Keith is 100% correct. My favorite part of the race was when they didn’t give Webber or Hamilton a penalty for that incident…
tvm
26th September 2010, 20:12
Way to naive, Webber clearly did not back of when he was clearly passed, Hamilton had the line.
Hamilton probably would have done the same in the reverse, none the less its Webber who is now permanently Schumacher-stained with deliberately taking out an opponent.
rci 808
26th September 2010, 21:36
Interesting reply Keith..
I bet anything if it was say, Michael Schumacher in EITHER one of those cars, you ALL would without any hesitation point your opinionated finger right at him for ultimate blame.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
26th September 2010, 21:41
Well that’s just baseless supposition. I do my best to give an informed and reasonable view on what happened regardless of the people involved. I can’t imagine what I’ve done to give the impression I’ve got some sort of vendetta against Schumacher. I remember a lot of people slagging him off after Canada when I defended his driving:
https://www.racefans.net/2010/06/14/schumacher-slumps-to-11th-as-rosberg-takes-points-mercedes-race-review/
rci 808
26th September 2010, 21:49
Sorry Keith.. My bad.
I ment to reply to tvm’s comment regarding the “Schumacher-stained” comment.
heat of battle and all ;)
cheers mate
dj
26th September 2010, 18:34
It looks like Webber’s drive for the WDC is over…pay back is going to be a B_T_H
F1iLike
26th September 2010, 18:43
I think today, and this weekend proves clearly it’s between Vettel and Alonso now since the Ferrari has got the speed back. And Vettel has had the upper hand on Webber about 2 years?! except those few races late first half of the season. Webber lives on those wins he had gifted to him.
Mclaren will be off pace at the next races. Might be okay in Abu Dhabi though..
xtophe
26th September 2010, 19:35
Gifted? If anything, Vettel possibly stripped him off a win in Turkey. Monaco and Spain were converted poles, Silverstone was an excellent start from the front row and Hungary was a ballsy strategy with some blindingly fast laps on worn tyres. Vettel may be the golden boy, but he has a lot to learn.
F1iLike
26th September 2010, 21:09
Vettel AND Webber probably stripped Vettel of the win at Turkey. Monaco and Spain Webber was strong. But since Vettels chassi was damaged (which clearly showed at the next race with a new one) it’s hard to say. Silverstone was a good start yes, but if Hamilton’s front wing hadn’t always been up someones rear tire, the race would’ve unfolded differently probably. Hungary was a misstake from Vettel, or mixup – radio failure, blablbla and the race was gifted. Two out of four.
Stevo
27th September 2010, 1:05
I could be mistaken, but didn’t Webber use a that same chassis Seb didn’t think was good enough (Liz I think) from after Valencia until Monza? That includes the two wins at Silverstone and Hungary.
David A
27th September 2010, 0:32
How wasn’t he going to win at Hungary, what with the 2 second advantage? And sleeping teammate?
Fer no.65
26th September 2010, 18:51
As a Webber fan, i think he got it a bit wrong.
But what about those backmakers ahead of him? And Senna too! Lewis got stuck behind him for a third of a lap, before overtaking him!
Appart from that, what happened to that rule, when the SC came out, the lapped cars could unlap themselves?
It’d make restarts a lot more interesting, without such slow cars in the middle. Specially if the slow cars (like todays) are 5 secs slower than the rest of the field!.
DaveW
27th September 2010, 14:34
That is an overlooked part of Hamilton losing the lead on the overlap. Sorry if Keith mentioned it (I actually have a hard time keeping up with the epic tomes Keith puts out in the few hours after a race!) I saw Hamilton have to drive behind Senna from corners 21 through 4 or 5. He lost about 3 seconds that lap if I remember the graphic correctly.
MW
26th September 2010, 20:15
Re the Hamilton and Webber incident, it must have been a fairly small impact, or Webber would not have been able to complete the race with such pace.
The reason Hamilton retired was not due to the direct impact, but because his car went over the aggressive Singaporean curbs. Look at what happened to Sutil during practice.
I think it is nonsensical to entertain the possibility that he ‘tried to take Hamilton out’, if this had happened at eg Spa, Ham would. Have carried on. As Ham himself identified, the curbs at Singapore are viscous. They are the culprit here.
Steph (@)
26th September 2010, 20:18
Ooh just thought this was a Grand Chelem for Alonso not just a hat trick so he went one better than the last race! Impressive. He now has as many wins as Jim Clark and 20 poles so the same as Damon Hill.
Nico was great today but I think he’s just off quick Nick’s stat for most points without a race win.
Possible fact: every time everyone starts to think a driver has got the momentum the said driver has a rubbish few races so could we all be a little more critical of Fernando? Much appreciated :) ;)
BasCB
27th September 2010, 6:34
Sure, he just got lucky in qualifying as Vettel dropped it. Then only the SC saved him from being eaten alive by Vettel in the race.
Only lucking into a win, and he will have his engine come back to haunt him very soon. And Ferrari is far from the fastest car. No way he will go for the title this year.
Is that enough?;-}
Gill
27th September 2010, 16:29
LUCKY in quali…
Alonso’s lap was so good that it made Vettel to be under pressure and make mistakes.
Credit should be given where and when due.
Vettel couldnt take pole on a tailor made Red Bull track which was evident in the race where Red BUll was quick on the primes.
A fair and unbiased judgement is commendable.
captain caveman
26th September 2010, 21:03
interesting race even with sutils penalty.
i would have to agree that webber and hamilton was a racing incident on this occasion. Eebber i recognise is way too similar to shumi for my liking in being over agreesive to protect his position even when it has been lost.
what made me smile was when we saw hamilton entering his motor home and opening his door singnposted with his name…. and to his right was a large screen TV showing the exact same incident that caused him to retire from the race…. ( note watched on a BBC feed) :-)
schooner
26th September 2010, 21:36
Racing incident, but I would lay more of the blame on Webber.
In the “if only” catagory….
I seem to recall that Hamilton, at some point after the first safety car, was some 22 or 23 seconds ahead of Webber. With Webber surely to close that gap after he got by Barrichello(?), I was expecting to see Hamilton come in for his new rubber at that stage, possibly getting out ahead of Webber. By waiting as long as they did, no way was that gonna happen. A tactical error by McLaren, IMO.
Fer no.65 (@fer-no65)
26th September 2010, 21:41
it took them 30 secs to enter the pits, change tyres and then leave…
i think never in the whole race the gap between LH and Mark was that big…
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
26th September 2010, 21:46
I’m looking at the data at the moment and that opportunity never existed. Writing up the analysis at the moment.
DaveW
27th September 2010, 14:38
Yes, and having seen that analysis, at the end of the day, McLaren would have to recognize at the time Webber pitted, that their tires would go off completely in a few laps, and they would have then stopped as well to cover Webber. At the time of the first SC, they were thinking of challenging for the lead, when they should have been moving aggressivley to keep ahead of Webber and Rosberg. That is major hindsight, of course, but that stroke of insight and foresight is what you need to win these kind of races, and for once, RBR showed a spark on the pit wall.
dyslexicbunny
26th September 2010, 21:37
So apparently my DVR didn’t record it and missed the Speed replay. Any suggestions on how I can catch the race?
Icthyes (@icthyes)
26th September 2010, 23:33
You’d have to torrent it I’m afraid, or sit around all week on justin.tv and pray someone replays it.
wasiF1 (@wasif1)
27th September 2010, 9:31
If you have espnstar sports then they will show the replay tomorrow, check your local listing.
dyslexicbunny
29th September 2010, 17:44
Thanks for the help guys. Finally caught it last night. Fantastic.
Formel1-GP
26th September 2010, 21:54
Well deserved victory for Fernando, Vettel lost the victory in Qualifying. RBR-Renault did a great job on Mark’s strategy, getting him infront of both McLaren’s. I wonder why he was that much slower than Seb over the whole weekend…
MikethePike
27th September 2010, 1:34
Imagine redbull telling vettel to slow down and move over and let webber take the second place…. as Ferrari would have done had it been Massa / Alonso (either directly or through an unscheduled mystery pit stop).
At least if either redbull driver or mclaren driver wins the WDC it will have been through having had to beat every other driver on the circuit.
As for the suggestion Webber should have just bent over and let Hamilton drive round the outside him – come on you guys must be one eyed nuts, he’s trying to win the world drivers championship, any driver (Hamilton included) would have defended in exactly the same way, there was no shumi turn in involved so I think its in a different category. Webber conceding that corner would have been pretty weak. Any time a driver goes to drive round the outside of someone as Hamilton did you have to doubly make it stick – which is what makes those moves so brilliant when they work…100% a racing incident, good decision umpire.
mfDB
27th September 2010, 15:40
That’s totally irrelevant because the drivers points standings. Don’t be naive and think that if Vettel had half the points of Webber that RBR wouldn’t have had Webber in 2nd place. the only difference between Mc, RBR, and Ferrari is that Ferrari is the only team that has a driver that has consistently been at half the points of the leading 5.
wasiF1 (@wasif1)
27th September 2010, 9:18
It was a good race for the Ferrari & like many says they are looking very strong they won in two different types of circuit. The incident between Webber & Hamilton was an racing incident for Hamilton this is his second DNF from a potential podiums if he loose this WC then he may hit his head on the wall. Good charge from Kubica in the tail end of the race, as well as for both Nico’s & Barrichello. Schumi had a day to forget & it was nice to see the young Japanese showing no respect to the master as he does what Schumi used to do to other in the old days.
Melchior (@)
27th September 2010, 9:41
I am waiting for a driver to say “Stuff you” and not be bullied off their line at the start of the race when the likes of Alonso or Vettel veers into the line of the driver next to them.
dj
27th September 2010, 21:44
Well Schu set that stander and Senna before him.
U2
27th September 2010, 13:36
Alonso is clearly the favorite for the WDC. All we need to do is rewind to 2008 and check .. In the last eight races of the season Alonso scored 48 points, which was more than any other driver (over the same period Massa scored 43 points and Hamilton scored 40 points).