Comments on: How to take great pictures at F1 races: Part 2 | Guest article https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/ Formula 1, IndyCar, WEC, Formula E and more independent motorsport coverage Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:18:12 +0000 hourly 1 By: Trackrecords https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-3882485 Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:18:12 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-3882485 In reply to macahan.

I agree shoot in RAW on a big, fast, DECENT memory card or a series of smaller cards to be really cautious. If the car has the sun behind it then RAW - most of the time and assuming you are using spot metering - will allow you to adjust the image to bring the subject up to the correct exposure, whereas in jpg you will be stuffed.
Also I don't see why to use manual - the Tv setting, as long as there is sufficient leeway on the aperture with your chosen shutter speed, will allow you to concentrate on the subject rather than worrying about manually adjusting the exposure when the sun comes out/goes in.
The one point that has not been stressed is that if your home GP is held at permanent circuit there will be other race meetings happening during the year that will have cheaper entrance costs. So go to an ordinary meeting and learn the circuit's layout and the best spots for photography and then practise, practise, practise until you know you camera and the circuit off by heart. Then when you go to the GP all you have to cope with is how much faster the cars are moving compared to the lower formulae. Don’t forget that F1 drivers have to start somewhere so a national single-seater formula race could contain a future F1 driver or two. Two years before he hit F1 I was watching Max Verstappen at a kart meeting – remember F1 isn’t the only motorsport!

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By: David LaFleur https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-1101002 Fri, 16 Nov 2012 03:55:00 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-1101002 Great article! I'll use some of these tips at the Circuit of America race starting tomorrow. I hope BBQ sauce doesn't jam my shutter button!!

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By: docjkm https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-759323 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 16:19:22 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-759323 A couple words. Jamie- correct terminology and references MORE important with amateurs and newbies as those of us more experienced will understand what you're *trying* to say. They won't.

Switch to servo autofocus, with focus set at center (or point anti travel direction with direct horiz pan - the 'room to move point) and shooting burst mode when panning vital when learning, and yield goes way up.

With a decent camera, RAW is not recommended, at least for this purpose. You will need to shoot a lot for decent yield and care space will factor, and additional write time will effect burst shooting on all but top cameras. Best JPEG setting Will suffice. For action. For crowd/atmosphere revert to RAW.

Points about lens importance cannot be overemphasized. Budget equal funds for lens(s), at least as was spent on the camera. Use kit lens to put back on camera when you sell it to move up. You will see the difference immediately.

Could add much more, but compliment the author (initial point not withstanding)

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By: Jameyprice https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-665034 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:45:45 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-665034 In reply to Bruced.

Again, the terminology was for people that don't get the finer details of cameras. You and I get it but most don't. Im not writing for the pros. Im writing so everyone can get something out of it.

Yes, could have been clarified that I was talking in basic terms, but didn't think it needed to be.

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By: BasCB https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-664945 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:20:20 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-664945 In reply to Steph.

LOL, still I like those pictures a lot Steph!

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By: BasCB https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-664935 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:09:11 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-664935 In reply to Keith Collantine.

LOL, actually it says "doporucit" for me, but that's just viewing from a Czech PC!

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By: raymondu999 https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-664618 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:33:35 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-664618 Hey guys. Normally I wouldn't really buy an SLR (as I'm not really a photog fan/hobbyist) but I was lucky enough to win a 50D EOS in a lucky draw last year, with a kit lens ( 18-55 mm, f3.5-5.6) I'm going to the Singapore GP this year. Any tips on any lenses I should buy, or what settings I should use?

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By: jraybay-HamiltonMclarenfan https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-662851 Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:57:45 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-662851 wow thanks am going to canada this year, close action : D

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By: macahan https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-662738 Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:42:09 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-662738 In reply to sketchyterry.

Storage is cheap. But yes there are many that shoot jpeg when shooting sport because of the amount of shoots taken but also because some cameras are not writing RAW files fast enough and start lagging on rapid firing. I prefer RAW because then I got better control in post and I rather loose on card containing 1/3 of my images then that one single card with all my images (I have had cards go bad so even I try not spread the "love" between multiple cards).

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By: sketchyterry https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-662680 Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:10:16 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-662680 In reply to macahan.

In some ways disagree shooting RAW for Motorsport. This is because they take up so much more room on your card. I have a 8gb card and at Brands Hatch for the BTCC i almost filled it with JPEG's, shooting on RAW i would have got only a 3rd of the amount of shots. However when i shoot over stuff (mainly do landscape) then yes, I always shoot RAW but at motorsport i wouldnt bother.

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By: Bruced https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-662445 Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:17:27 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-662445 In reply to Jameyprice.

Jamey,

You could have added that the darkening (not to mention beautifying) effect of adding a polarising filter to the lens would help allow you to run with a longer shutter speed whilst still shooting with the aperture wide open, minimising the fence by reducing the depth of field. Basically, if on a sunny day you can't set a low enough ISO to shoot wide open, add a polariser or Neutral Density (ND) filter.

I find that even if you get horizontal lines from panning through a fence, with a smooth pan and a longer shutter, you can get quite a dramatic sense of speed, as if the picture has go faster stripes…

It's worth underlining that making the fence invisible is only going to be possible with an SLR, as non-interchangeable lens (and video) cameras have sensors far too small to create such a shallow depth of field.

Incidentally, your use of terminology is sometimes awry. I don't like this 'higher' and 'lower' aperture. Opening and closing would be clearer. Then yesterday you said the lower the number, the more depth of field, which is the wrong way round.

Anyway, I too love the Ferrari flag shot. Nice work. And thanks for writing the guide.

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By: macahan https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-662436 Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:11:22 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-662436 In reply to SoLiDG.

Agree both articles are good and have very good info in them. As a amateur tog serious about what I do and loving motorsport there wasn't anything I didn't know already but I'm a tog because I'm more creative with pictures then words so nice to see a good write up.

A couple of things I would like to add here, the camera is not what makes the picture, it's the photog tat makes them. You can get very good pictures with a lower end camera if you know how to use the equipment. I think in the first article it was mentioned (maybe I recall wrong) is learn your camera inside out. Pickup the manual and read it cover to cover, learn to do adjustments to the camera without having to really think about it. Start up a Project 365 (one picture a day for a year, can be everyday happenings and things around you, the key is practice with the camera every day, check out mostly365.com for more info).

If you have a DSLR and want better equipment instead of looking at upgrading the camera look at getting good glass. If you stay within the same camera brand you can when time comes to upgrade the camera always use the same lenses.
Good glass is very expensive, dump the kit lenses and upgrade your glass FIRST.
You can start with a entry camera such as the Nikon D5100, once you have a good set of lenses, tripod and monopod well then it might be time to upgrade your camera.

Things to look for with good glass is how fast the lens is (the F-stop). You want a lens that can do f/2.8 through the entire range. The holy trinity is 14-24mm f/2.8, 24-70mm f/2.8, 70-200 f/2.8. Then on top go with a 400mm f/2.8.

One thing that I don't recall reading in article 1 or saw in this one, when doing panning photos give the car somewhere to go. If the car is moving from right to left put the car on the right side of the frame so you have track infront of the car, this adds to it. With background blur and space for the car to "go somewhere" you give a real sense of motion. To add even further to the feel of speed give a slight tilt to the camera.

To be prepared when arriving at a grandprix weekend, go out practicing panning. Go to a intersection and take pictures of the cars going through, once you start getting things to work at slower speeds with distance then get closer and move to place with higher speed. Obviously you might not get a chance to practice on cars going at 200+kmph but more then likely the closest you get at a grandprix is 50-100m. If you can pan and get clear pictures of a car doing 100+kmph from 20-25m you can do the same on a car going 200+ at 50m.

Final words, SHOT RAW!!! Preserve as much as possible of the picture to allow you to adjust and make eye poping images in post processing. If you shoot JPEG your post processing adjustments gets limited but just keep in mind you can't recover a bad image in post so you want them as good as possible in the camera then enhance them in post…

I SHOT RAW!

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By: Jamey Price https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-662385 Mon, 25 Apr 2011 15:00:16 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-662385 Most GPs give a free pit pass walkabout on Thursday afternoon with a 3 day ticket pass.

Thats how I got the shots of Bruno and other drivers on my website. You will be hard pressed to get a shot of a big name driver but I walked right up to Bruno, Heikki and Jarno with no issues at all. The Ferrari boys were mobbed as I expected….

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By: Gary https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-662342 Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:09:39 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-662342 guys quick question; Jamey said you can go to the pit walk on thursday of a race weekend. does that require a special pass or ticket? or can you do that with a general admission pass?

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By: Steph https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-662192 Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:59:59 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-662192 2 great articles. I've been taking photos at races for over 10 years now but only with a bridge camera. At the moment I have a Panasonic DMC-FZ28. These articles have had me out in the garden over the last 2 days looking at the manual settings as I've only ever used the automatic settings before. My photos are here - http://www.redstephf1.com

As you can see I am by no means an expert but one thing regarding fences - depending on where you are you can get above the fences to get your shots. Also getting by a corner is easier to get good shots as the cars are much slower - Luffield at Silverstone is particularly good for that.

I always tend to take most photos during practice and only a few during the race as you don't want to miss what's going on because you're looking through a camera lens. Also it's so much easier now with digital as you can snap away and just delete the rubbish ones later.

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By: modtl https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-662137 Mon, 25 Apr 2011 10:38:54 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-662137 I got my first digital SLR last year and here's my results from Silverstone with it :D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45199604@N04/sets/72157624460927187/

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By: Patrickl https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-662023 Mon, 25 Apr 2011 07:34:03 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-662023 In reply to Jameyprice.

To be honest I only tried that a long time ago since these days every track has a double row of fences. You can stand close to the first, but the other one is still a bit further away.

But indeed if you find a spot where you don't need to pan (and with only a single fence) then it's probably easier.

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By: modusimg https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-662015 Mon, 25 Apr 2011 07:03:47 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-662015 First of all thanks Jamey for sharing these photog tips.
Does anybody have tips/locations for shooting @ Monaco GP? I was in Malaysia for the F1 a few wks ago and i was quite surprised at the many different locations available to shoot from.

Pics i took can be seen here: http://modusimages.smugmug.com/Motorsport/Formula-1/Petronas-Malaysian-Formula-1/16584672_Ck34m#1249418151_pZFwd

Friday Practice was access all areas, is this the same for Thurs practice at Monaco? Would be great if someone can share some info :)

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By: J https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-661969 Mon, 25 Apr 2011 05:05:27 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-661969 For Singapore GP, do manual focus and set it at a position where would you like to take the shot. Because the track is already well lit, no need to use a flash. Better get a walkabout ticket to so you can postion at different locations. The best place to get a shots are on Turns 8 & 14 (there's an underpass so you switch easily). The cars are about 10-20 feet away. Good Luck! :)

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By: SeanG https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/24/great-pictures-f1-races-part-2/#comment-661933 Mon, 25 Apr 2011 03:26:28 +0000 https://www.racefans.net/?p=45102#comment-661933 In reply to SeanG.

A better link.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/liquidstereo/630645498/in/set-72157600483162136

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